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Compare Pylons, which uses Controller classes for no apparent reason whatsoever.

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Oop is good for complex situations. When you can find actually complex web app that would really benefit from oop all the way let us know. As far as I have seen there has been none so far.

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Think about the actual objects in a Django application: the model objects, request and response objects, etc.

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isn't a function in python a static method on the containing module object?

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This sounds a little bit like the idea of an "open" module in Ruby. I think that this is a really interesting idea, but one with some potentially dangerous consequences.

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Re: OOP and Django

Mike A — Mon, 15 Jun 2009 23:42:00 -0000

Django is weird in this respect and it misses out on so much whilst causing users to tap a lot more code in.

Thinking about it, not only are django views not objects but nor are they real functions (I'm thinking functions in the pure sense - no side effects) - cos they hit the database.

This 'false-function' design gets the worst of both worlds:-

You have to deal with security for each and every function. Ok, this might be just a decorator, but you still have to write it every time
Likewise you have to deal with rendering the response each and every time
You can't do things like put functions into the database - this would be great as permissions would be as simple as matching Groups to functions.
You end up starting to think that fat functions are normal.

Compare any two view functions and you're bound to find loads of similarities.

I find it especially ironic with all the song and dance they make about how DRY the django code base is.

As for django's Model 'objects', they aren't objects at all, but as rightly pointed out, data structures. Objects are about messages and behaviour, not attributes and queries.

This 'false-object' design has had a severe impact on the django code base, which has largely gone unnoticed and, I believe, is contributing to the problems they now face getting releases out the door. When was 1.1 supposed to be out?

For fun, grep for getters and you'll see what a sorry state django is in behind the scenes.

In fact, last time I counted there were actually more return statements than defs! Such things should never be used in OO code, outside of __new__.

Also, to correct some misconceptions, HTTP requests are in no way function calls. HTTP works by a browser sending a request message to a web server, which may then adjust its state and then may send a response message back. They are asynchronous messages to objects, the object being the web server. Even GETs work in this way. The fact that a GET request may respond with a different page at different time means it is not treated as a function in the true sense.

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ben10 oyunları — Sun, 24 May 2009 21:01:00 -0000

translates well to views in Django, because requests are basically function calls. Your browser calls some function of a web server.

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